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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:45 pm 
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If the shades aren't ITP in this setup you could try taking along the BoL+Starfire Arrows. If you force a panic test every turn they should fail atleast once I think, but hopefully that will teach said opponent that this unit is a dumb, unfun idea.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:46 pm 
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hahaha

The best counter to this shade uber unit is the Lore of Life spell - The howler wind.

No more shooting for that stupid thing.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:12 pm 
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Except that it'll be almost impossible to cast; they'll have their Ring, plus a bunch of Dispel Dice, and that's exactly the spell they'll aim at.

Combo-charges are one of the best ways I've worked out to deal with 'em. The multiple Assassins will still be a problem, but if you charge with several units, then hold for a turn and charge with more you should be able to break 'em in combat. Dryads will do very well, for relatively cheap. You just have to realize that you'll lose a whole unit (even a Treeman!) to the S&S, and at least one more to the fighting, so you want to charge with as much as is possible, then keep piling in. Failing that, if it's not a tourney, just stop playing. It's not like either of you will really be enjoying yourselves....

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Typically the Shade star has the ring + a bunch of magic resistance but only base 2 dispel dice.

Howler Wind doesn't target the shade unit so just stay out of ring range.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:07 pm 
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The Howler Wind isn't as great as you might think. Since it doesn't do anything until their shooting phase, they'll get a chance to dispel it once when you cast it and then another chance to beat its casting value of 7 in their magic phase.

Since armies with the RoH are unlikely to be doing much casting, it's almost a given that their power dice will go towards trying to beat the Howler Wind. It's actually a pretty lame spell because of the way the turns are set up.


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:15 pm 
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A shade death star army usually has only 2 dispel and power dice. The chances of dispelling howler wind in their magic phase are around 50%, so I would still try to cast it.

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