Hi,
After a long time break from Warhammer I have decided to rejoin with a fresh new WE-army.
I've played through 5 and 6.ed but didnt get any games with the 7.ed.
So my question here is:

Will this work as a good allround army in 7.ed games? Is there any cheese in this army that I'm not aware of? Any tactical suggestions?
(keep in mind that this is supposed to be a true Forest Spirit army.)

LORD:
Ancient Treeman 425pts
-Annoyance of netlings
-Cluster of Radiants
-Lamenation of Despairs
-Pageant of Skrikes

CORE:
-Unit of 8 Dryads incl Branch Nymph 108pts
-Unit of 8 Dryads incl Branch Nymph 108pts
-Unit of 8 Dryads incl Branch Nymph 108pts

SPECIAL:
-Unit of 5 Treekin incl Elder 345pts
-Unit of 5 Treekin incl Elder 345pts
-Unit of 3 Warhawk Riders 120pts
-Unit of 3 Warhawk Riders 120pts

RARE:
-Treeman 285pts

TOTAL: 1964pts

Many players consider 2 treemen cheese, or used to. Now with the new power armies they are not very cheesy.

The only thing that I would be worried about is your magic defense. You only got 3 dispel dice. I can also tell you that the lamentation of despairs is useless, because you don't have enough offensive magic to get it through.

Champions in dryads are quite useless. You have to pay 12 points for an extra attack. For that price you could get another dryad.

Treekin are IMO best in groups of 4. A unit of 5 is so wide that the fifth model is not probably going to get into base contact. Also Elders are generally speaking not very effective, because you are paying so many points for just one attack.

Glade riders are better than warhawk riders, but I can see that they fill a useful role in your army. Still I would prefer glade riders.

For the points you can get by dropping something from your army (lamentation, the 2 extra treekin and all the champions) you could get another unit of dryads (they are golden) and a branchwarith to give you more dispel dice and 1 extra treesinging spell. You might want to have a champion in the unit where you have a branchwraith though.


And welcome to the forum!

yeah WHERE are the Wild Riders ? they are something fast and furious to protect your flanks. the Whr are expensive and fragile. and like Eglardion said take a Lvl 1 branchwraith with you. with cluster of radaince that's another 2 Dispel dice you need.

Further more you can't have lamenation of desair on your treeman since he allready ahs a bound spell (treesinging) and he can only have 1.


LORD:
Ancient Treeman 400
-Annoyance of netlings
-Cluster of Radiants
-Pageant of Skrikes

Hero:

Branchwraith 140
- lvl 2
- cluster of radiants

CORE:
-Unit of 8 Dryads 96
-Unit of 8 Dryads 96
-Unit of 8 Dryads incl Branch Nymph 108pts ( Branchwraith goes here)

SPECIAL:
-Unit of 4 Treekin 260
-Unit of 4 Treekin 260

6 Wild rider 199
-musician
- standardbearer+ Warbanner

6 Wild riders 156
-musician

RARE:
-Treeman 285pts

Totale: 2000 points

3 PD - 5 DD

Cheers Jayz

Thanks.

This is exactly why I posted this here. I see now that there is somethings I forgot.

So I've made a few changes. I'm not completly sure about switching from warhawk riders to wildriders yet. But in points there are noe much difference between 4WR+3WR vs 5Wildriders + 5 wildriders.
So I will play a few games with both setup to see.

Now is the long process involving glue, paint and around 60 models

You can only take the CoR once - otherwise the suggestions Jayz and Eglardion made are pretty good...

*whispers* True Forestspirit lists don´t need pansy elves...

I've been thinking about this army all day. Good thing it's sunday:)
This is the new armylist. I think that this is what it should be. No more changes (I think)
(This was actually in my head before I read Lain's comment about those pansy elves )

LORDS & HEROS:
-Treeman Ancient (General) 375pts
Annoyance of Netlings
Cluster of Radiants
-Branchwraith (lvl1) 115pts
-Branchwraith (lvl1) 115pts

CORE:
-8 Dryads (incl Branch Nymph) (Branchwraith 1 goes here) 108pts
-8 Dryads (Branchwraith 2 goes here) 96pts
-8 Dryads 96pts
-8 Dryads 96pts
-8 Dryads 96pts
-8 Dryads 96pts

SPECIAL:
-4 Treekin 260pts
-4 Treekin 260pts

RARE:
-Treeman 285pts

I would like to here what kind of tactics you would use if you ever where to play such army. Or what tactic you would use if you played against such army.

I would use this army as follows (in a very basic explanation of tactics):

1. Dryads + Treekin
2. Dryads + Treekin

3. Dryads + Dryads (with Branchwraith)
4. Dryads (with Branchwraith) + Treeman Ancient

5. Dryads + Treeman


Unit 1 and 2 will attack one of the flanks of the enemy
Unit 4 and 5 will attack the main threat of the enemy
Unit 3 will take opposite flank of Unit 1 and 2.

Looks much better. With 5 dispel dice you should survive most of the damage spells, and since all your units have T 4 or higher shooting shouldn't thin your ranks too much.

Try to get the treekin and treemen to flank the enemy blocks, so you will negate rank bonuses. Otherwise you might bounce of the unit.

Don't forget to use your treesinging. With the TM and BW you have to opportunity to treesing six times per magic phase. That should give you ample ways to interdict enemy movement, as well as increase your movement, if you have some units hiding in the woods while you treesing. With the tresinging comes a couple of innate tactics.

-I like to hide in forests and try to entice an enemy to enter the woods and treesing damage to the unit.

-When your opponent tires of so much treesinging and uses his dispel dice, then you can use the Lamentation of Despairs. In the later turns, 4th or 5th, it can be a very decided time to employ it.

You'll have to let us know how your first game in 7th goes for you, and if you need to tweak your list. Good gaming bro!

I have good results with the "Landraider-tactic":
Form a battleline with Treekin in the center, against shooty armys you can spread out a unit of Dryads in front of them for the first turns, the other Dryads protect your flanks.
Place your Wraiths and Treeman in the free forest on a flank (with the treeman in a position where they have a line of sight to the side) and treesing the forest in a position where you can threaten the enemys flank when he closes in to your Treekin.
Another good tactic is switching the AoN to the Wraiths.
When your opponent sees an ancient he will be sure that your big guy has the Netlings and react this way.
Giving them to a wraith can be a nasty surprise...
Your list is nearly similar to my favourite one - with a little practise you should have a lot of fun.

Everyone will expect the Ancient to have the Annoyance and so avoid him with anything worthwhile.
Try putting it on a Branchwraith instead, much more mobile with a 360 charge.
Bump up the units of Dryads with the Branchwraiths to 12 each, drop one of the units of 8 to do this. Adds survivability against magic, magic for which our Forest Spirit save is inneffective!

You need to read the new FAQ. You can only have 1 bound spell from items. So the innate treesinging does not stop you from taking a bound spell. I still wouldn't take it with the above list.

Get a glamourweave mage with 2 scrolls. You will need it. Pit of Shades or Spirit of the Forge will easily take out either of your treemen and without them this list fails.

I would drop a unit of dryads and both branchwraiths to pick up 1-2 Glamourweave mages with scrolls and maybe a hail of doom arrow.

I always couple the Annoyance with the Murder of Spites. An ancient can benefit from some higher I attacks and I whiff with treemen on a regular basis.

I'm going to play my DE buddy this saturday with a portion of this army.
I'm going to bulid this army stepwise and therefore he will meet a 750pts army first:


Hero:
-Branchwraith lvl1 with cluster of radiants 140pts
Core
-8 dryads with branch nymph (BW goes here) 108pts
-8 dryads
Special
-3 treekin
-3 treekin

I'll let you know how it goes. There's probably going to be a battlereport on sunday:)

Looks good. I noticed that you have 16 points more to spend so you should use them. You could either upgrade one of the dryads from your other unit into a branch nymph or drop the branch nymph from your first dryad unit and give annoyance to the branch wraith. The later is a much better choice and you should do that.

I played a small friendly tournament against some friends last weekend. It was 2250 pts so I made a few changes (actually alot).

Treeman Ancient 375pts
-Cluster of Radiants
-Pageant of Skrikes

Branchwraith 140pts
-AoN
Branchwraith 90pts
-Lamenatition of Despairs

Dryads 8
Dryads 8
Dryads 8
Dryads 8
Dryads 8
Dryads 8

Treekin 4
Treekin 4
Treekin 4

Treeman - 285pts

It was actually very fun to play with this army. Mainly because I can provoke this reaction: 'WHAT?! you got a mage that can fight?!' (yeah they havnt played much against WE before)
But also because it's a fast moving, killing army of tree's.

First match was against HE. MY GOD!!! A prince on a dragon, That is just not fair!!!
Anybody know how to kill it??
Any way, it was a solid victory for him.

Forgot to take notes so I cannot write battlereports. (sry my bad, but I'll do that next time)

Second match was against DE. He plays well but still a Massacre at round 5

Last match was against Bret. It looked to be a victory to him, but TAbles turned and I got a draw.